From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 8:40:25 PM
To: Thorp, Holden
Subject: Professor Elliot Cramer

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Attorney Luger
As I predicted, Cramer has continued to harass not only myself BUT OTHERS on his UNC LINKED and PROMOTED website
I believe one or more individuals have since contacted UNC
Please click:  http://www.unc.edu/~cramer/
Then you will see the DIRECT connection from his main UNC page to his slanderous www.ourpaws.info website
It is now been SIX MONTHS since I first reported this matter to UNC
During this time, there's been NO effective action taken by the University
And NO results presented from your investigation
This is completely unacceptable
In fact, matters have escalated - as now - SEVERAL persons are mentioned on his website
See this page for details and click the Court Order links and the "Another nut-case" link at the bottom of the page
http://www.ourpaws.info/joe
It's been brought to my attention that Cramer has threatened a 75 year old women!!
Please also see how he is mocking me via his UNC police and UNC Legal comments
These are a DIRECT RESULT of your PENDING presentation
i.e., If UNC took action SIX months ago, he obviously wouldn't be poking fun at the situation
In my mind, Cramer is actually INTENTIONALLY provoking me and others
Why?
Then if he creates a legal liability for UNC, then you would be FORCED to PROTECT him
I HONESTLY feel that is what is going on here
Your JANUARY email below cites there is an "ongoing campus review of the situation, and expect the campus to communicate with your shortly"
Questions:

1. Why hasn't anyone contacted me in THREE MONTHS as you indicated?

2. What are the results of the investigation?

3. Why is Cramer still allowed to spew venom from UNC linked websites that were created and administered with UNC email addresses?

4. Could you please provide an official UNC statement on this matter for my records?

5. Why hasn't ANYONE called to discuss this matter with me?  I find this VERY unprofessional!

FYI --
Cramer ALSO created OTHER slanderous websites to harass me -- that were UNRELATED to UNC
I've worked with Facebook, Scribd.com, Google.com and 4shared.com among others to remove slanderous comments from Cramer
I've spent dozens of hours (DAYS!!!) of my time doing such
I've cleared most of the issues through the appropriate legal channels
Meantime Cramer and company had MY Scribd.com and 4shared accounts deleted in retaliation!
(Hence, many of my below links do not work as Cramer removed the evidence!!)
This is beyond a waste of OUR time
I'm TRYING to put this behind me, but I cannot as he just refuses to go away or remove his website
I'm trying to be respectful of UNC, but you've clearly dropped the ball
i.e.,
I've NOT contacted your board of governors again
I've NOT worked with the press
Why?
To PROTECT UNC
But I've had NO reciprocation at ALL!
Lastly, please note, I just lost TWO six figure engagements as a result of the Cramer slander!!!!!!!
This is NOT hyperbole
The FACT that I first reported this issue in NOVEMBER of 2010 - SIX months ago -- means if Cramer was policed by UNC, I may not have lost these engagements
So what was once an exercise in finder pointing, has now turned into a DIRECT SIX FIGURE MONETARY LOSS
I would therefore like to finally garner UNC's help in removing Cramer's website and disciplining him through your channels
This beats multiple lawsuits and the alternatives
I trust you agree

joseph villarosa
www.g2institute.com

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From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 11:52:39 PM
To: Cleveland, Joanna Carey
Subject: Fwd: Professor Elliot Cramer

Attachments: Elliot Cramer Complaint v6.pdf

UNC Legal
Per my return receipt, Chancellor Thorp read my prior email yesterday but did not reply
Nor did Luger or Strohm -- who may not have reviewed it yet
Nor has anyone in a few MONTHS
Could SOMEONE please ask Attorney Strohm or Attorney Luger to contact me?
See the attached for a summary on Professor Cramer
See also the below email thread
This is a serious LEGAL issue that has been pending for SIX months
I've been more than patient and I'd like to work with UNC to resolve the open items
BUT -- I cannot do this in a vacuum; I need open dialog
Thank you
- joseph villarosa

From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 8:52:11 PM
To: Waddell, Stan Adolphus
Subject: IT complaint against UNC Professor Elliot Cramer

Attachments: Elliot Cramer Complaint v6.pdf

Mr. Waddell and Mr. Padilla
I located your names here: https://ccm.unc.edu/ITS/about_its/ITS_management/index.htm?ssSourceSiteId=
I'm hoping you could help since no other UNC department has been of much service
FYI, this entire situation is directly related to the ITS department
How?
Breaches of MANY of your policies by Professor Elliot Cramer
Please see the attached document as well as the the below email thread
It's long, but a quick read
In brief, Cramer has violated just about every IT / Security / Privacy and related policy under the UNC sun
How?
Some is explained in the attached
Some I will explain on the phone if you like
Some others may include  --

· Advertising his slanderous www.ourpaws.info website from his UNC website -- http://www.unc.edu/~cramer/

· By using his UNC email addy to harass people

· By beaching your personal use policy

· By breaching your email policies and AUP's

· By setting up MULTIPLE UNC email addresses for his UNLICENSED nonprofit organizations which ILLEGALLY solicit funds with UNC branded emails!

· By originally administering and setting up the ourpaws website via his UNC account

· By administering the FOCAS group via his UNC email account

· By breaching your retaliation policy

· By using a BOTH a UNC labeled FOCAS and ourpaws email accounts (he has SEVERAL UNC email accounts!!)

· Breach of ethical standards

· Breach of harassment standards

· Posting my personal emails on his website that is promoted by his UNC website

· SCORES (see examples in the attached PDF) of harassing emails from his UNC email address

· Breach of Network AUP policies

· Co-mingling personal, political and university activities through his UNC linked sites

· Breach of email privacy guidelines

· NCGS 14-113.20 violation of personal information

· And I could go on and on and on -- remember, there are MORE breaching cited in the attached document!!!

The attached lists other UNC policies he's violated
I also have screenshots of MANY other violations derived from this page
http://www.unc.edu/campus/policies.html
MANY are DIRECTLY related to YOUR "Information Security" section
I know, I've downloaded each and reviewed
In fact, I've reviewed every single university policy and have a detailed list with examples of ALL breaches
It's silly, how long my list is
But what is more comedic is that UNC legal has NOT even made a SINGLE call to follow up in SIX MONTHS!!!
As such, I now feel it to be appropriate to go to your department as it ALL centers around Cramer's questionable use of technology!!!
FYI, see below, I was told the University investigated him
But no one provided me ANY feedback
I'm GUESSING (bet'cha a nickle) your department wasn't even involved in this investigation EVEN THOUGH it was 100% related to ITS!
I'm therefore hoping you will review the attached
Then CALL ME to discuss
THEN, perhaps you could speak to Legal and close the loop
I'm frustrated I'm being ignored by other UNC departments
I'm really hoping you will help
Why?
Because I'm trying to report a number of serious IT related LEGAL issues
And your legal folks JUST DON'T GET IT
I'm hoping the IT folks can educate the UNC lawyers!
As such, it places your university and your department in an unfortunate situation should a lawsuit get filed
Why?
The evidence is clear as are your policies that have been breached
As well, it's abundantly clear UNC legal is covering this mess up -- possibly at your expense
I'm TRYING to work WITH UNC
But I'm being slandered and harassed by one of your professors and I want it to end
Kindly have someone call me tomorrow
Feel free to circulate my email to others in ITS
Kindly provide the professional courtesy of a phone call
Thanks
joseph villarosa
                        845-586-1604            

From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 6:28:13 PM
To: Waddell, Stan Adolphus
Subject: Re: IT complaint against UNC Professor Elliot Cramer

Mr. Waddell and Mr. Padilla
I was hoping for a reply
I see Padilla reviewed my email several times and even forwarded it to UNC IP # 152.2.192.192
Great
Now I'd love some comments or to schedule a time to chat
I'd also like to speak to UNC legal on the same call if you could arrange
(They have NOT replied to my emails)
I'm sure you have skype, so perhaps we could vid-chat
Please advise
Thanks
- jospeh

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From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 7:11:15 PM
To: Thorp, Holden
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: Fwd: Professor Elliot Cramer

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Chancellor Thorp
Thanks for reading my below email
(see below screenshot confirming same)
Sadly, no one from UNC replied to this or ANY other emails in FOUR months
Thus far, I've reached out to several departments, to no avail
(HR, ITS, Legal, UNC Police, etc.)
I even had my attorney contact Luger to inform her I'm pro se
And that UNC should deal directly with me on this matter
Oddly, after Luger invited my attorney to chat
AFTER she found out I was pro se, she REFUSED to speak to me
I just don't understand why I'm not being provided the courtesy of a reply
I'm trying to point out over two dozen UNC policy breaches by Cramer
One would think you would be appreciative of this as it may PREVENT more serious actions by Cramer
By the way, I have been informed that Cramer AGAIN threatened someone with a gun!!
Only this time, it was a 75 year old women!
See his website where he openly touts her: www.ourpaws.info
See Faith Walker link
Luckily he did NOT take action
BUT WHAT IF HE DID?
How would this look in the media if he did AFTER my MANY warnings that he was dangerous?
How would this look after his prior incident where which resulting in his resignation?
The man is obviously deranged and in my opinion COULD inflict bodily harm to others
And yet, I've not been provided the investigation results, ANY emails, or witnessed ANY changes in his actions or website
In fact, matters are worse
To be blunt -- I feel UNC is covering up the Cramer scandal and leaving me hung out to dry!
It's been four months since UNC has contact me
During that time, he has ADDED names to his slanderous website
And he has harassed several others who are all upset by his actions
I know for a fact that a few have already contacted attorneys for legal actions AGAINST UNC
Again, I predicted this could escalate to legal maneuvers and tried to work with your office to prevent same
I believe one person recently took Cramer to court two days ago --
DIRECTLY related to the SAME situation I've presented
(I'm trying to get details and will share if you like)
Kindly have someone from your office or Legal contact me immediately
Some of my goals include:

1. Ensure UNC disciplines Cramer accordingly based on a FORMAL investigation

2. The above referenced website and ALL google search results links should ALL be removed

3. Cramer's multiple email addresses used to solicit funds for his personal projects - be revoked (FOCAS@unc.edu, etc)

4. FOUR YEARS of UNC co-branded (FOCAS@unc.edu) fundraising when he did NOT have a solicitation license - should be investigated

Lastly, please note - I maintain documentation indicating I just lost TWO six figure consulting projects due to Cramer!
He has DIRECTLY contacted dozens of people I know, including my Pastor and business associates
He has also worked with others to send bulk emails out about me!!
As well, if one googles my name, there are scores of slanderous Cramer links about me
I've had to consult THREE attorneys and have spent dozens of hours trying to remove SOME of the links
Cramer's venom has now resulted in the quantifiable loss of over $200,000 in income!!
The questions is -- what income did I lose thanks to Cramer - that I cannot measure?
What "harm" did he slander cause?
I contacted your office SIX months ago to PREVENT EXACTLY THIS type of a situation
So not only have I lost significant sums, but my personal and professional reputation is now tarnished
And on TOP of this -- the worst of all is -- he threatened a 75 year old with a gun!
Had anything happened to her and UNC could have been sued for countless millions!
As it was ALL related to MY original situation and the lack of discipline by UNC!
I hope you agree it's time UNC take serious actions against Cramer
BEFORE he slanders another
BEFORE he shoots someone (which I feel is in him)
BEFORE he creates MULTIPLE UNC lawsuits
He is a disgrace to your fine University and a threat to the safety of others
Kindly reply by the end of this business week or have Legal contact me by Friday please
My thanks
joseph
www.g2institute.com

rom: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 10:19:55 PM
To: Thorp, Holden
Subject: Re: Professor Elliot Cramer

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Strohm
I'm insulted by your reply.

1. First you correspond with me, and then play "hard to get", then AFTER contacting me -- out of the blue you told me you couldn't correspond as I have an attorney.  BUT you would be happy to speak to me if represented by an attorney.  I then had the attorney in question contact you and tell you I was pro se.  Then when I took you up on your offer to speak, you played opossum and NEVER replied in FOUR months even AFTER you volunteered to chat.  This was AFTER you clearly told me the University would be in touch with me shortly.  Is four months = "shortly"? 

2. NOW you tell me that after months of waiting - you FINALLY figured out that this was "not a university matter".  Did this really take FOUR MONTHS -- or was it a stall and a deflection technique counselor?  Please!

3. You also told me in January that the university was formally investigating Cramer.  Ah... -- why formally investigate if Cramer was outside the purview of your laws to begin with?  Your reasoning is illogical!  Now four months later you tell me Cramer is not affiliated with the University EVEN THOUGH I sent you dozens of UNC labeled emails (from him) in my 93 page tome.  This is also comedic because Cramer is all over the web telling people he is an active faculty member!  Doubt me, see below.  In fact, he STILL signs his email with a UNC title! 

4. As well, I PROVED to you he is/was using MULTIPLE UNC branded emails (FOCAS@unc.edu, ourpaws@unc.edu, and others).  As such, whether he has contacted me recently is irrelevant.  As the damage was already done.  (I also have him blacklisted so he cannot contact from his UNC email address!  So if he wrote, I would NOT know, so he MAY HAVE!) Further, he created the www.ourpaws.indfo website containing slanderous information about several persons.  And it is clearly promoted on his official UNC website:  http://www.unc.edu/~cramer/.  Click this link and see the ADVERTISED UNC link to "PAWS" -- click it and you will see my name and the name of others.  Click this then:  http://www.ourpaws.info/joe.  Hence, UNC is allowing and even PROMOTING his slander!  (It's painfully obvious you told him to NOT contact me with his UNC address and it's also obvious you told him to bury certain other website links and email addresses tied to UNC.  Luckily, I have documentation of these changes to validate my point!).  May I HIGHLY suggest you revisit my 93 page document as much of it did not assimilate.  See also how he sites UNC in TWO comments.  Do you agree with these? 

5. You should also know that BOTH the PAWS site AND the FOCAS sites are/were BOTH administered by UNC email addresses and created ON YOUR NETWORK!  I've already provided proof.  As do I have PROOF that his slander and venom came directly from Carmer's UNC IP address!!!  

6. Cramer set up a PayPal account with a UNC email address.  This means he legitimized his illegal fundraising by using UNC's good name!  He then channeled the money THROUGH A UNC email address to get paid!!!

7. I've also reviewed ALL (I mean ALL) of your policies, including the ITS policies.  And they say NOTHING about a double standard for active vs. inactive faculty.  The policies are single tiered and apply universally to ALL REGARDLESS!  You know this!  I know this.  PLEASE --  no games.  I have documented that Cramer has violated over TWO DOZEN misc. UNC policies!  And NOW your way out of this is to THINK that I would believe that he is an inactive faculty member and outside of your guidelines.  I don't buy this for a second, again, you are deflecting.

8. If Cramer was outside of all UNC laws, and NOT affiliated with the University, why did Thorp ask him to resign from his UNIVERSITY POST in 2009 -- FIFTEEN YEARS after you claim his ties to the University ended???   Ha!  He did this to legally distance the University from Cramer, JUST AS YOU ARE NOW DOING AGAIN!!!  http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7022968

9. Bottom-line?  If Cramer is using UNC email addresses (PLURAL), then he is 100% under ALL of your policies!  You are wrong in asserting he is outside of these!

10. OH, one more thing.  Consider this my formal request for the following:

· ALL emails between UNC Legal (Strohm + Luger offices) and Cramer (both ways) from November 2010 to present

· ALL emails between UNC administration (Thorp, et al) and Cramer (both ways) from November 2010 to present

I fully understand your open records policy ("public record") and the limits of FOIL/FOIA -- so kindly advise on your precise UNC policy to request same as I really don't want to dance back and forth for six MORE months.  And please, don't play the FEPRA or any or card, as I'm well aware of your recent court LOSS.  http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/04/20/2235503/unc-loses-open-records-case.html -- heck, I even know ALL about this...http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2010/12/17/93-email-from-unc-professor-to-thorp-makes-numerous-explosive-assertions/
OK, I've tried my best to work WITH UNC
It's obvious you take no responsibility for Cramer's actions EVEN THOUGH I have the UNC digital fingerprint on his EVERY MOVE!
He is hiding behind you
And you are hiding behind a very lame excuse that will be laughed out of court
Cramer has committed everything from illegal solicitations without a state license to slander and even death threats to a 75 year old women!
ALL ON YOUR NETWORK!
I've had enough.
I will now do what I need to do.
- joseph villarosa

From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 2:30:03 PM
To: Padilla, Ramon
Subject: IT complaint against UNC Professor Elliot Cramer

Attachments: 2011-04-21_1436 padilla.png

Ramon
Thanks for again reading my email
This is the 11th "touch" between both emails I've sent
So there must be a genuine interest in what is going on
Why no reply?
I'm trying to help UNC
But I can't if I'm ignored...
Thanks
joseph
                        845-586-1604            

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From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2011 11:54:46 PM
To: Stabile, Regina
Subject: Re: Professor Elliot Cramer

Attachments: Cramer on FB.jpg; VillarosaFBIFOILv2.pdf

Dear Attorney Strohm
As a former Yale Alumni Club President, Harvard Fellow AND the President of ALL Ivy League Schools (Ivy League Association) Alumni Organizations, I have utmost respect for your position protecting the good name of UNC.  But, "enough is enough"!  I've just searched Cramer's website to find your two-faced dialog with him that totally contradicts your below email to me AND contains his open mocking of you/UNC!  Doubt me?  Oh no, I never lie -- see:  http://www.ourpaws.info/joe then see the Leslie Strohm Link!  Then see this link were he openly mocks YOU AND UNC!  http://www.ourpaws.info/strohm.htm  -- FYI, this was precisely why I submitted a FOIL and NC Public Records requests to UNC/Attorney Stabile (that is cc'd on this email for professional courtesy).  Why?  To see how UNC is spinning me.  AND YOU ARE!!!  NOW I HAVE PROOF that BOTH UNC AND CRAMER have BOTH INTENTIONALLY LIED!  Need I remind you, this is grounds for a HUGE LAWSUIT COUNSELOR!  All due to YOUR errs in handling this situation!  I'm NOT litigious and I highly respect UNC, but I'm also not happy with your games or the games of Cramer.  I've already interviewed SEVERAL blue-chip law firms.  Please don't force my hand.  I'm TRYING to work WITH UNC and you have given me now NO CHOICE!!!  Some additional comments:

1. Please AGAIN refer to my 93 page document for precise emails from Cramer's UNC emails addressed to me!!  I have unequicocal PROOF of cyber-harassment against my person.  Should I file charges, UNC WILL be also named.

2. Please contact the NCSOS and ask for Attorney Gardner (also copied on this email) and ask her these PRECISE questions:

o Did Cramer's group FOCAS have a solicitation license in the last FOUR years?  (Other than the RECENTLY obtained exemption)

o Ask for a copy of the actual solicitation license for the FOUR YEARS in question and then humor me -  kindly send me a copy for my files -- you will find there WAS NONE!

o Then ask the SOS or Cramer for his 990 for this time period as well as his PayPal records and you will find he skirted BOTH the IRS and the SOS by NOT having a license and YET he OPENLY solicited funds while hiding behind the excuse that FOCAS was "exempt" -- well FOCAS was NOT Exempt for FOUR YEAR!  See my 93 page document where I prove this with documentation from the SOS!!  Then look at the PayPal/Chipin email addresses ILLEGALLY USED by Cramer to legitimize his ILLEGAL chipins for FOUR years ("FOCAS@unc.edu") - see 93 page document for screenshot. 

o Then ask Attorney Gardner if OTHERS have ALSO complained about Cramer/FOCAS -- such as Faith Walker whose LIFE he threatened with a GUN - RECENTLY and whom he ALSO highlighted on his website (as he now has you/UNC/Thorp, Faith Walker, Susan Boyd Fisher and Michele Castillo AND MANY OTHERS (APS) that he do not agree with).   I understand Walker has ALSO complained to UNC about Cramer and BELIEVE she MAY have had a day in court against him last week. 

o Why not contact Walker ("H. Faith Walker" <faithw3@att.net>) and ask if she is pleased with Cramer's threats and slander?

o When you are at it, please contact Susan Boyd Fisher (CHEROKEE <vaphxarizona@aol.com>) and Michele Castillo ('Michele' <vegancastillo@gmail.com>) that he ALSO slammed on his venomous website -- if they agree with Cramer?  Fisher is a disabled vet who has an order of protection against her ex -- now thanks to Cramer, her ex can easily find her.  Nice.  Very nice professor.  Threaten 75 year old women (Walker) and disabled vets (Fisher)!

3. Cramer states that I made "False Statements" -- I stand by every statement I made against Cramer and have provided Meta-documentation to substantiate same.  He clearly abused your personal use police and a few DOZEN OTHER policies -- including MANY from ITS!  Heck I have your own words CONFIRMING I AM CORRECT!!!

4. Your letter to Cramer states that you ascertained that I WAS CORRECT and that Cramer DID in fact use the FOCAS@unc.edu account for PERSONAL financial gains!  Yet, your letter to me did not indicate ANY such admission.  I find this to be unethical and duplicitous; typical attorney!  Shame on you!  Instead of telling me I was correct, you denied ANY wrong doing and even protected Cramer by your FOUR MONTH silence and avoidance and yet, you criticized him personally.  Need I remind you, this is hypocritical!

5.  As well, your email to me (below) played coy and "dumb" when you stated there was no link betweem Cramer and UNC, yet in your letter to him on Jan 17 (below) -- you clearly cite you personally noted this exact link!  Again, you lied to me and I just proved it!  Shame on you ONCE AGAIN! 

6. Further, you claim he is NOT affiliated with the University and therefore this is NOT a University issue YET you AGAIN contradicted yourself when you asked Cramer to remove links on his university account.  Curious.  You tell me one thing, play and spin me and then tell Cramer to do EXACTLY what I've asked for SIX MONTHS!!  Again, this is why I've requested ALL UNC emails with Cramer.  I'm SURE I will find other such falsehoods.  I'm NOT pleased!!!  Your actions are reprehensible and frankly, I feel YOU need to be disciplined as you just breached several of the University ethics policies!!

7. After reading the Jan. 19 2011 Cramer / Thorp email - it's painfully obvious Cramer is working with Thorp to mitigate YWC collateral damages by garnering Cramer's assistance in a barter deal related to ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I'm clearly and formally warning you -- do NOT use me as a political pawn.  If you do, I will climb to the highest mountain and shout your actions -- LEGALLY -- to the world.  I trust I'm being clear?

8. As well, I waited  FOUR MONTHS for a reply to your investigation and yet, the Jan 19 email indicated you HAD RESULTS FOUR MONTHS AGO and INTENTIONALLY WITHHELD SAME FROM ME!  Shame on UNC ONCE AGAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

9. In the same email, I find it comedic that Cramer, who manages the FOCAS website claimed to not know ANYTHING about the paypal account EVEN THOUGH I've provided CLEAR PROOF that he ADVERTISED IT OPENLY on FaceBook and on his websites!!  See below for PROOF of this.  Additionally, Cramer is the head of FOCAS, so regardless, the buck stops with him!!  Cramer states "20 of these were in connection with the Robeson Shelter which was a special case for which we did NOT solicit"  -- oh really?  See ONE example below to disprove this.  I've DOZENS of other solicitations from Cramer!!  He too is a liar!!  Thus far, BOTH UNC AND CRAMER HAVE LIED TO ME!  I'm NOT HAPPY!

10. Cramer stated "We did NOT solicit funds for the Robeson County Lawsuit" -- huh?  Yet another lie!  See below

11. I find it funny that Cramer is now claiming HIS right to free speech was violated by UNC AND that he "consider(s) (sic) this to be harassment by the University".  Ha!  So funny.  First he hides behind the University and then when you question him, he lumps UNC in the same group of "harassers" as me!  Jeez!  How does it feel to be a cyber-stalker? Impish boy-like grin.

12. I see where Cramer states "I don't think the University needs this type of publicity again".  Translation?  He's basically TELLING UNC to "bury this" and "make it go away" - at MY expense!  I get it; I get it - but no thanks.  I'm NOT going away!

13. Note your/Strohm's email to Cramer where she states (below) "...This is a violation of University Policy".  Yet ironically, as stated above, UNC never presented the results of your investigation.  And instead, intentionally avoided SEVERAL emails asking for a status.  I won't say "shame on you" again.  But you get it...right?  See as well where you/Strohm cite the penalties to Cramer and YET, you claimed to me, that is NOT affiliated with the University and this is NOT a University matter!  PLEASE, you've been now caught with your shorts around your ankles and I now DEMAND an apology or I WILL GO PUBLIC WITH THIS.  This is NOT a threat, this is my civic duty and RIGHT!

14. Note Cramer's statement:  "This investigation is a result of harassment by Joseph Villarosa who is now the subject of a complaint to the FBI for Internet Harassment".  Please see the attached OFFICIAL FOIL RESULTS from the FBI that clearly states, there is NO FBI file!!!  Again, Cramer is making statements he cannot substantiate!

15. Lastly as a point of interest, please note that Barrett (Cramer's partner in Crime who FABRICATED a "Death threat" by INTENTIONALLY MANIPULATED my correction to a typo ( a YEAR LATER!) and added the word you ("U") and made a correction a "threat" -- "dead = dear" was intentionally edited by Barrett to "dead = U dear".  Then she took this and got a restraining order against me.  It was a flat-out lie.  And I have since reported Barrett to the Forsyth County DA, the FBI, etc.  My point is that Cramer insists I am a "nut", a "turd" and a "cyber-stalker".  I am merely someone who refuses to take his grief.  And I have stood up to him and he doesn't like meeting his superior.  

In closing, I've the following STRONG suggestions:

1. Disable EVERY UNC email account for Cramer (ourpaws@unc.edu, FOCAS@unc.edu, cramer@unc.edu, cramer@email.unc.edu) as he is CLEARLY USING UNC as "bait" from which to legitimatize ILLEGAL fund-raising and thus, ILLEGAL profits!  i.e., He claimed monies donated to Susan Barrett's legal funds to Attorney Gerber were "tax free".  WTF?  He was using UNC to launder MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Then he cried that he wasn't aware of the FOCAS@unc.edu email address of the chipin account.  PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!  Get rid of his email accounts as he is a disgrace to your University!  He is also squarely positioning UNC in a position for MULTIPLE LAWSUITS (Villarosa, Fisher, Castillo, Walker, etc.).

2. I want an apology for the above referenced "dichotomies" (LIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!).  I'm NOT HAPPY!

3. I want UNC to IMMEDIATELY REMOVE the www.ourpaws.info/joe page and ALL OTHER Cramer pages linked to my name -- COMPLETELY removed BOTH from his hosting site AND from ALL google searches.  There is an important distinction.  One could remove the page BUT it could linger on Google search results for YEARS!!  I want BOTH removed IMMEDIATELY!  After reading your CONTRADICTORY emails in January -- It's obvious UNC is playing both sides against the fence.  Enough, I now DEMAND you take action and insist Cramer remove ALL ourpaws pages related to my person.  See my prior documentation that PROVES BOTH his FOCAS and OURPAWS websites were created AND managed by UNC email accounts!! There IS a undeniable link to UNC and there a UNC digital fingerprint that is OBVIOUS.  Enough.   

4. I really do NOT want to take legal actions against Cramer OR UNC, but you are forcing my hand by your blunders.  I'm now providing YET another opportunity to redeem UNC's good name.  Please don't blow it AGAIN...do the right thing!  Why?  Because when I get the FOIL and NC Public Records results, I'm going to find MORE dirt on UNC and Cramer.  So it's probably better to make amends NOW; don't you think? 

As you've ignored MANY emails, kindly reply to this one by Wednesday.  See the below screenshots AND the SEVERAL emails lifted from Cramer's website below, they are VERY important.  See also my attached FBI CLEAN FOIL.
joseph villarosa

_______________________________________________________________________________

From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 6:25:45 PM
To: Stabile, Regina
Subject: Cramer has ADDED PAGES about US to his website

Attachments: 2011-04-25_1716 Cramer new link.png; 2011-04-25_1720 new link ourpaws.png

Attorney Strohm, Attorney Luger, Attorney Stabile and Chancellor Thorp
Cramer is "at it" again...
Did you see that Cramer  ADDED a link to his official UNC website to OUR conversations?
i.e., WITHOUT my permission, he just made OUR conversations and yours/his PUBLIC!
See this link for more
http://www.unc.edu/~cramer/
Then see the bottom of the web page
Do you know he also discussed US in a newspaper article????????????????????
Some comments:

1. Cramer added private INFORMATION linked (bottom of the page) to his OFFICIAL UNC PAGE!  Please see screen image below.

2. INSTEAD OF REMOVING DEROGATORY INFORMATION -- HE ADDED ADDITIONAL MATERIAL!  Wasn't the point of your intervention to remedy the problem; not create NEW problems?  Clearly Cramer is belligerent and loves to "toy" with UNC and others.

3. He also used my FULL NAME in the link which means it will SOON by available via ALL google searches in a few days!!!!!!!!!!!!  This also means I will AGAIN have to spend countless hours TRYING to remove this page from search results -- probably with NO luck!  This is clearly an example of Cramer's passive aggressive nature!  i.e., He is retaliating against your intervention and requests by ADDING information about US on his ourpaws website while concurrently removing the direct link from his official UNC page.  Hence, he is honoring your request and then intentionally adding fuel to the fire at the SAME time!  Ugh.

4. He DID remove the ourpaws LINK from his UNC page but NOT the reference to it!  So UNC is STILL TIED to the slanderous UNC page!! 

5. See this and click the link:  http://www.ourpaws.info/ -- he did NOT remove the page in question NOR did he remove the link as you requested him.  The link to this page is very much alive and well.  He also did NOT remove ANY of the google search links tied to the actual web pages.  So -- matters are actually WORSE NOW than BEFORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

6. Cramer also ADDED a NEW link on the ourpaws website that is provided in the below screenshot. I repeat for emphasis -- he ADDED MORE INFORMATION!

7. If one then clicks the referenced link you then will see Cramer ALSO ADDED a NEWSPAPER ARTICLE ABOUT US in the Chapel Hill Herald!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I wish I was kidding.  Do you know this?  He BLASTS UNC!  http://www.ourpaws.info/strohm.htm  -- I don't get it folks --  why don't you completely disassociate yourself with Cramer?  Are you afraid of a lawsuit by him?  Or does he have certain information related to his "Colt 45" saga that he is holding over UNC rendering your someone powerless?  What's up people?  Something doesn't make sense.

8. Cramer is CLEARLY mocking and ridiculing BOTH OF US AND SEVERAL OTHERS!!! And he is STILL "co-mingling" OurPaws with Joseph Villarosa with UNC!!!  In FACT, he's ADDED META-content to his websites and now even a newspaper article!!!!!!!!!

9. FYI -- Attorney Stabile has NOT contacted me for my FOIL and NC Public Records Requests...please encourage her to do so.  After all of this, I don't need additional delays.   

10. See the Cramer article -- see how he references me as "The New Yorker" and he tries to pull in credibility by quoting Attorney Reppy from Duke.  Reppy has NOTHING to do with ANY of this!!  This is plainly a smear campaign because I caught Cramer soliciting funds without a license for FOUR YEARS.  This is 100% "retaliation" which is YET ANOTHER UNC policy breach!!  See as well where Cramer slams Attorney Strohm.  Perhaps it's time this gets escalated to Luger's office or to outside counsel?  (I'm serious)

11. NO ONE has bothered to pick up a phone and provide me with the courtesy of a phone conversation - don't you think it's time?  Kindly advise.

I was hoping your help would assuage the situation
Instead -- it was like poking a stick in the eye of a sleeping giant
Now Cramer is slandering us BOTH and calling us both "harassers" (see his direct quote in article)
May I suggest consideration of the following action to protect OUR "interests"

· Contact the abuse division of his hosting company, godaddy.com

· Then send a legal letter asking THEM to remove ALL ourpaws pages that references Villarosa and UNC slander

· If they refuse, you MAY need to get a court order to do so  -- if you play the NC Cyber-stalking law card -- this should be VERY easy to get

· I KNOW GoDaddy will immediately honor a court document to remove these pages

· My point?  Don't play with Cramer any longer -- go to his ISP with a court order! 

· Why?  In the end, it's a lot faster and less painful than a lawsuit by those named on his various websites

· I would also like to recommend the University dissolve ALL affiliations with Cramer including his UNC web page

He's clearly violated about two DOZEN UNC policies  -- I can send you the FULL list if you wish
He's therefore legally lost his right to have a UNC web page
I've read your policies, this is clearly YOUR decision
It's time he be sent a message
Please consider legal action (court order to remove his ourpaws SITE) and your dissolution of his UNC page and ALL content
It's WELL overdue
And it may also be the "olive branch" I need to discontinue my chats with prospective law firms
As I have far better things to do than this -- as do you
Don't you have a University to run?
PLEASE provide the courtesy of a reply and detailed feedback
See below images and see ALL links
Thank you

From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:38:45 AM
To: Stabile, Regina
Subject: Re: Professor Elliot Cramer

Attachments: 2011-04-25_0025 cramer google 2.png; 2011-04-25_0023 cramer google.png

Attorney Strohn (et al.)
I apologize for the follow-up email but I wanted to make one other IMPORTANT point...
Please see this google link based upon my name "Joseph Villarosa":
http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=nw#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=Joseph+Villarosa&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=bce1d2c2cef6738f
Note were a FEW of the Cramer "ourpaws" website results show-up
And NOT just the MAIN page but pages that are NOT reference on the MAIN page!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See below screenshots
Note that it took me DOZENS of emails and DOZENS of hours to REMOVE the MANY Cramer links to my name and his site
I had to contact Google
I had to contact Scribd.com
I had to contact MANY OTHER websites and groups
Now there are only a FEW derogatory links left
But only ONE is ENOUGH to slander my good name
As such, Cramer/UNC directly caused me to lose TWO six figure projects!
This is NOT my ONLY point...
NOW see THIS google search based on "ourpaws.info strohm"
Eneter it yourself into google if you doubt me!!!
http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en&tab=nw#sclient=psy&hl=en&site=webhp&source=hp&q=Joseph+Villarosa&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=bce1d2c2cef6738f
And NOTE that YOUR NAME and Cramer's website are comingled / co-referenced!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
See also below
My point?
So far UNC is lucky as THIS Page -- http://www.ourpaws.info/strohm.htm -- is NOT picked up by the google search "spiders"
BUT it is ONLY a matter of time before it is!!!!!!!!!!!
THEN ALL of your emails to Cramer will be posted ALL OVER THE INTERNET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i.e., This EXACT page and EVERYTHING ON IT WILL BE ALL OVER GOOGLE SEARCH RESULTS!!!  http://www.ourpaws.info/strohm.htm
Hence, perhaps NOW UNC is FINALLY getting a taste of the Cramer "Medicine" he has been dishing out to me
How does it feel to have your name memorialized, ad infinitum counselor?
With NO WAY YOU can PERSONALLY get the website links removed?
Feels good doesn't it?
NOW YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE BEEN EXPERIENCING THANKS TO YOUR MANY BLUNDERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ALL -- Ironically because you didn't listen to me SIX MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!!
Allow me to be clear
EVEN IF CRAMER REMOVES THE ABOVE WEBSITE PAGE IT WILL STILL BE PRESENT IN GOOGLE CACHE SEARCHES FOR YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only HE can remove it by requesting same from Google
If he removes the LIVE PAGE, the saved or "cached" page will remain for YEARS!
As such, NOW you can hopefully "taste" a dose of Cramer's "medicine"
The "medicine" I've been TRYING to work with UNC to PREVENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Get do you get it now counselor?
Now do you see why I've beggedUNC to work WITH ME for SIX months?????????????????
Boy is UNC "obtuse"  (DENSE!)
See below
I expect a formal written apology from UNC legal and the UNC chancellor
Or I will force this all to go viral on the net
This is NOTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT a threat
It is a 1st amendment right!
- joseph villarosa

From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 10:15:48 PM
To: Thorp, Holden
Subject: Cramer update to Faith Walker (cc. UNC)

Faith Walker (cc UNC)
I'm sending you this email as apparently you've also had troubles with Professor Cramer
I believe he recently threatened you and slandered you on his website

NOTE EMC: This is news to me; I’d like to see documentation ofthis

And you've since discussed same with UNC

FYI, I just spoke to the head of the ATT/BellSouth Abuse department and they've already provided him a formal abuse warning
As well I spoke to legal/management at Scribd.com and they DELETED his account
As did others!
In addition, Google legal has helped to block some of his slanderous links!!!
*** Note EMC This is all news to me

This has taken an inordinate amount of time and effort
And yet his www.ourpaws.info site STILL lingers!!!
ATT told me one more peep out of him and his entire net and email access and will be revoked
That said, I just checked ALL of his email addresses to see if ANYONE took any measures against Cramer:

· ourpaws@unc.edu

· focus@unc.edu

· elliottcramer@bellsouth.net

· cramer@email.unc.edu

· cramer@unc.edu

Oddly I got a positive validation on EVERY email meaning that all SEEM to be working
FYI -- you could use one of these tools to check yourself
http://www.google.com/search?q=Elliot%20Cramer%20%2B%20Colt%2045&hl=en&ned=us&tab=nw#sclient=psy&hl=en&source=hp&q=how+to+check+email+address&aq=1&aqi=g5&aql=f&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=5a7627f4ddf7f63
This means UNC did NOT delete his ourpaws or FOCAS email addresses
And he still has TWO Cramer email addresses at UNC
I'm copying our friends at UNC on this so they know
One would think the least they could do is to revoke his non-official email addresses
After all, why can't he just set up a FOCAS and OURPAWS email address at gmail or another free site?
PERHAPS I'm wrong, but I checked my tests a FEW times
As well, please see a recent email thread below
VERY important
I'm sending it as I strongly feel that between the harassment WE received from Cramer --
Coupled with his recent threat to you -- that UNC should FINALLY take action to harshly sanction Cramer
As I'm unsure when last you spoke to UNC, this email is an attempt to keep us all in active dialog
I believe Susan Boyd Fisher is ALSO upset with Cramer
But she is dealing with medical issues at the moment
I'm hoping she will ALSO contact UNC to let them know of HER harassment by the good professor
BTW Faith, no one from UNC replied to the below or my last SEVERAL emails
I've since spoke to legal counsel about this situation and plan to escalate matters if UNC continues to be uncooperative
FYI, I did a public record request for ALL emails from Cramer to UNC -- you may also benefit from such a request
Or I could share my results with you if UNC every replies (I'm still waiting for details)
By examining Cramer's emails with UNC - that he recently posted on web -- I learned much
Namely that UNC is playing both ends against the middle and spinning ALL of us to cover their rear
I've documented several UNC falsehoods that do NOT please me
So be careful dealing with them, as they are apparently playing high level politics
As activists, nothing we can't handle
I think it's best WE ALL WORK TOGETHER ON THIS
But as I've said to UNC before - it's hard to negotiate when the other party doesn't reply
I'm therefore hoping UNC will reply to my last few emails and Attorney Stabile will contact me about my records request
Thank you Faith!
- joseph

From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 9:38:58 AM
To: Strohm, Leslie Chambers
Subject: Re: acknowledgment (Public Records Request dated 4/20/11)

Attorney Stabile
Thank you for your email
My address:

Joseph Villarosa
PO Box 66
Arkville, NY 12406

Regarding "in accordance with the NC Public Records Act"
I know the law WELL
It's printed, highlighted and in front of me as we "speak"
This is how the applicable section reads:

§ 132‑6. Inspection and examination of records.

(a)        Every custodian of public records shall permit any record in the custodian's custody to be inspected and examined at reasonable times and under reasonable supervision by any person, and shall, as promptly as possible, furnish copies thereof upon payment of any fees as may be prescribed by law. As used herein, "custodian" does not mean an agency that holds the public records of other agencies solely for purposes of storage or safekeeping or solely to provide data processing.

As such, there is NO definition of "promptly as possible in accordance with the North Carolina Public Records Act"
As in the last "session" your politicians FAILED to agree to a definition (as they did when drafting the actual law)
In this respect, your law is VERY vague and imprecise
Hence, you could (technically) intentionally make me wait several months or more
And then hide behind the nebulous Act/Law and STILL be in compliance
Ugh
I get it, I get it
Please, provide updates in writing IF this is going to take more than two weeks
As well, so that we FULLY understand each other and to conserve your staff's time needed to "fix" inaccurate requests --
PLEASE provide me with the "specs" (criteria) that you provided your techies
Why?
You HAVE to do this, so it's no extra work
And it will ensure I don't want 9 months only to get the wrong material...
I'm NOT trying to be difficult, but I've had my fill of cat/mouse games
I know the law, I know all about the NCDCR
Heck, I even know the Records Management Analyst over UNC
(I spoke to these good people yesterday!!)
http://www.records.ncdcr.gov/guidelines.htm#laws
http://www.records.ncdcr.gov/about.htm
So please, kindly oblige my simple requests so we may expedite the processing of these records
i.e., Kindly reply to the two questions above when you've a moment
MANY thanks for processing this
I DO appreciate your time
- jpv

________________________________________________________________________________

From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 11:05:41 AM
To: Thorp, Holden
Subject: Terms of a Compromise

Attachments: April 2009 187 copy 2_edited-1.jpg

Dear UNC
My apologies for ALL of the emails of late
Oddly, if someone called me, there would be LESS need for same (hint)
Believe it or not, I'm TRYING to work WITH UNC and avoid any/all legal action
Hence, this email
I BELIEVE I figured out the terms for a win-win situation
Please consider the below suggestions and FINALLY comment back
FYI, I've discussed this situation with SEVERAL attorneys/law firms
I REALLY do NOT want to take this route against UNC
(And I DO want to against Cramer personally, but I have better things to do with my time)
I'm hoping if WE could come to an agreement NOW, such actions and the negative press thereof may be averted
These are ONLY suggestions
I am by NO MEANS telling UNC what to do; there are merely MY suggestions
UNC to contact Cramer's hosting company (godaddy.com)
Please see the below email
Godaddy is the hosting company for ourpaws.info
As you know, it was DIRECTLY linked to UNC for MANY years!
Click this link to go back in time (I'm NOT kidding) to 2004
http://replay.web.archive.org/20040729002642/http://www.ourpaws.info/
Or type in his URL here and pick ANY date in time
http://web.archive.org/
There you will see YOUR UNC co-branded email address labeled on his site!
Hence, I have UNC's digital fingerprint tied to Cramer slanderous website BACK TO 2004!!!!!!!!!!
As well, please understand that Cramer used UNC email accounts to access this website
And to manage it
And to CREATE pages!
I've already documented this and have OTHER PROOF that I will NOT share unless this goes to court
Trust me, Cramer's ourpaws.info is DIRECTLY Tied to UNC in MANY MANY WAYS
It's therefore CLEAR that even though the CURRENT UNC links and references have been removed --
The "damage" has already been done (back to 2004 -- I JUST PROVED IT!!!)
A compromise for ALL could be this...
Read the below email
And contact godaddy and ask Godaddy to remove the pages in question
Google my name FIRST to see the SEVERAL other Cramer pages on me as all are NOT on the "Joe" page
You could ALSO ask godaddy to remove the NEW LINKS to UNC/Strohm!!!
If the request comes from "legal" - it MAY very well work
Easy
This would make me VERY happy
AND it would ALSO dissociate UNC officially with Cramer and his actions!
IF it does NOT work, you MAY need a court order to get it removed
BUT you can discuss this with godaddy if need be
My point?
Instead of ASKING Cramer to diffuse his venom, just have it legally removed
PLEASE consider this option as it is the fastest way to offer me an olive branch
AND to clear YOUR good name from his website as well (private emails with UNC)
My BIGGEST complaint is that Cramer has adhered to your request to remove links
BUT THEN BOLSTERED the ourpaws page in a deliberate act of passive aggressive retaliation
This is CLEAR
It's THIS PAGE (ourpaws.info/joe) that I find MOST offensive
Remove it and the other pages related to me and this would be very helpful
UNC to contact Cramer and ask for HIM to contact Google
It's clear Cramer is an embarrassment to the University and UNC HAS LEGAL GROUNDS against him!
PERHAPS - you could contact him and ask him to remove ALL google search results links to my person, UNC, Walker, etc. through google?
i.e., A Quasi-cease and desist with a built in request to remove the above as a "gesture of good will"
Here is the EXACT site he will need to use:
http://www.google.com/support/websearch/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=164734&from=136868&rd=1
My point is that if godaddy removes the pages -- they will STILL remain in google search results for YEARS
(Typically) ONLY CRAMER can get these removed
You MAY be able to get some removed (I did) but it would take numerous attempts and many hours of time
I feel you could request this of Cramer in exchange for NOT taking ANY or LESS disciplinary action?
A swap
Fair, legal, equitable
Cease and Desist
Next if UNC could draft a C&D to Cramer naming ALL of the persons he's slandered (Castillo, Villarosa, Walker, Fisher) --
And request he does NOT post ANY future reference to our names (at LEAST MINE as I can't speak for the others)
As well, that he does NOT post ANY reference to UNC's "name" in future web posts
Then I would find this suitable and this MAY potential be what I need to NOT take legal action
This would obviously create a win (Villarosa) - win (Cramer) - win (UNC)
I do NOT want to contact him as the man is belligerent

And to be blunt, I am fearful of physical retaliation from him

I'm NOT KIDDING
I feel the C&D from UNC (cc'd to me- et al) would be a VERY good idea
"Hand Slapping"
Instead of ME suing Cramer or UNC doing a full blown investigation
Why not just delete ALL of his UNC email addresses (he has 4-5)?
As well, I would SERIOUSLY consider deleting his "Cramer" UNC page
Why?
He needs to be disciplined and taught a lesson
And these actions directly fall under the powers per your guidelines
These suggestions could be done in literally MINUTES
And would send a STRONG message to Cramer when coupled with the C&D
Again, this is a FAR better option that a lawsuit
AND additional BAD press
Summary
The monetary cost of defending a lawsuit is obviously inordinate
BUT the "opportunity costs" are MUCH higher!!
i.e., Clogging up your legal team for this when they SHOULD be working on pure university affairs
Hence, the above "compromise" / suggestions seem to make sense for ALL parties
Kindly consider my thoughts and email back your reply
Or
Feel free to ring me
Please do not misconstrue my email
I'm a strategy analyst and I think WAY out of the box
Sometimes, the easiest and most unorthodox solutions are the best
Case in point
Thank you - joseph
(PS: The below Scridb.com link doesn't work)

-------- Original Message --------

Subject:	RE: Compliance Complaint against FOCAS/Elliot Cramer by Joseph Villarosa
Date:	Fri, 17 Dec 2010 16:54:40 -0700
From:	GoDaddy Abuse Department <abuse@godaddy.com>
To:	Joseph Villarosa (Alphanalyst) <alphanalyst@catskill.net>

Dear Joseph,

Thank you for contacting Go Daddy's Spam and Abuse Department.

GoDaddy.com does not allow illegal content on our customer's websites. However, as a hosting provider, it is not our place to determine if the site you have mentioned is actually engaging in illegal activities.

From: Joseph Villarosa
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 12:04:37 PM
To: Thorp, Holden
Subject: Re: Cramer update to Faith Walker (cc. UNC)

Hi Faith
Sorry but I didn't share ANY ATT info with UNC
Hence, I did NOT share info on your to UNC, you are mistaken
I did however contact ATT to ensure OUR complaints made it to the manager WHO ASKED FOR THEM
Please re-read what I sent
i.e., I ONLY provided ONLY to ATT what YOU had ALREADY provided them
Hence, there was NO NEW information provided
I don't see this as a problem, especially since ATT asked to see your complaint
SO they would link it to mine
Also, you said everyone was helpful, thanks great
But sadly your name is still plastered all over Cramer's site
As is mine
Note your personal email address is now available via google searches thanks to Cramer
Click this to see it in living color
http://www.ourpaws.info/Faith%20Walker.htm
Our common goal should be to remove this website/page and ALL references to us
Hopefully UNC will consider some of my suggestions in my earlier email
Thanks
- joseph