9/17/2009 ~10:00pm email from President of YWC
Dr. Cramer,
I was just informed of fliers on campus that have your home
address, which says "WHY IS YOUR PROFESSOR SUPPORTING WHITE
SUPREMACY?" and "students and community members are strongly
encouraged to contact him and tell him to withdraw support for
YWC." I thought i'd let you know so that you can plan for some
sort of protection. I'll draft up a letter later tonight to the
DTH about this. I'm not entirely sure how to go about this
problem, but it seems like an indirect threat to your safety.
nikhil.
9/18/2009 12:14 AM I come back from Bridge and respond to
Nikhil with colt 45 note. I copy Haley, Holden, Schultz (CH News Editor)
Thanks for your concern; I have a Colt 45 and I know how to use it. I
used to be able to hit a quarter at 50 feet 7 times out of 10.
9/18/2009 12:00 PM I write Andrew Dunn of Tarheel saying "Haley
was quoted as saying she "hopes the case inspires other
activists"; evidently she has. I regard this as a serious
threat to free speech on this campus. "
9/18/2009 1:53 PM Email from Holden Thorp copying Haley, Nikil, Schultz
Elliot,
This email is highly inappropriate. It is certainly not consistent with the civil discourse we are trying to promote. I would like to talk to you about this by phone. Can you let me know a phone number where I can call you?
Holden
9/18/2009 2:39 PM I respond to Holden, explaining circumstances and leave message for him on telephone
9/18/2009 ~3:00pm Call from Holden. He says Haley or others may
use this against University and he may have to ask me to
resign. I read my letter to him and he asks me to resign. He
announces that YWC is shut down until another advisor is found
9/18/2009 3:01 PM I write Jesse at CH News "I trust you took my
colt 45 comment as it was intended; I certainly don't feel
threatened but the chancellor took it seriously and has
asked me to step down as adviser "
9/18/2009 3:10 PM Jesse asks about correspondence with Holden
and I send it
9/18/2009 3:33 PM Jesse DeConto writes: How do you plan to
respond to the chancellor's request? I reply: It's his
call; he evidently thinks that it will be presented as if
I were making a serious threat rather than an off-hand
light-hearted response to a concerned student who thought
I might be in danger. I'm sorry that I placed him in an
awkward position
9/18/2009 3:51 PM Jesse DeConto wrote: This is all just too
interesting. Can we sit down for an interview early next
week
9/18/2009 ~7pm I get call from N&O asking for picture and saying
they will have article on front page next day
9/19/2009 12:42 AM To Holden: I'm afraid that things are
getting out of control. If there are people out there who
wish to do me harm, it is well that they understand that I
may be prepared to defend myself. I didn't start this;
Haley did. I hope you will reconsider; if you dissolve
YWC, Haley and her friends will have won and the
University will have lost.
9/19/2009 1:45 PM To Holden: I am shocked that a student would
be fearful of my revealing that he sent an email
supporting me. I think this is a far more serious problem
than my jokinqg about a colt 45.
9/19/2009 5:44 PM To Holden: any way to come to a compromise on
this ... I see I sent my email at 12:14am. Perhaps at
10pm I would have simply forwarded Nikel's email to me.
If you have any thoughts on this, let me know,
9/20/2009 ~9am Call from Holden He would like things to calm
down for a few days and he will talk to PR people and get
back to me
9/20/2009 10:12 AM copy to Holden of Email to Pope foundation:
“I'd like to see if we can work things out before getting you guys involved”
9/21/2009 7:53 AM email to Holden about interview with Haley and
blog asking people to write him
9/21/2009 3:18 PM email from Chris (former advisor): Holden has proposed a
committee of people including, Hugon, me, and Jon Curtis
to advise YWC. I get call from Tarheel about an hour
later, asking me about plan. Instead Holden excludes me
and adds Chris.
9/22/2009 11:49 AM Article in Herald. Email to Holden: “It seems
to me that my inadvertent inclusion of a joke pales in
comparison to the real intimidation which included the
chanting of "We know your addresses", an obvious threat.
It would be good if the University spoke out about this.
As for Haley, she has made her intentions clear in her
interview (attached)”