9/17/2009  ~10:00pm email from President of YWC

Dr. Cramer,

 I was just informed of fliers on campus that have your home


SUPREMACY?" and "students and  community members are strongly

encouraged to contact him and tell him to  withdraw support for

YWC." I thought i'd let you know so that you can plan  for some

sort of protection. I'll draft up a letter later tonight to the

DTH about this. I'm not entirely sure how to go about this

problem, but it  seems like an indirect threat to your safety.





9/18/2009 12:14 AM   I come back from Bridge and respond to

       Nikhil with colt 45 note.  I copy Haley, Holden, Schultz (CH News Editor)


Thanks for your concern;  I have a Colt 45 and I know how to use it.  I 
used to be able to hit a quarter at 50 feet 7 times out of  10.



9/18/2009 12:00 PM  I write Andrew Dunn of Tarheel saying "Haley

       was quoted as saying she "hopes the case inspires other

       activists"; evidently she has.  I regard this as a serious

       threat to free speech on this campus. "


9/18/2009 1:53 PM  Email from Holden Thorp copying Haley, Nikil, Schultz


    This email is highly inappropriate.  It is certainly not consistent with the civil discourse we are trying to promote.  I would like to talk to you about this by phone.  Can you let me know a phone number where I can call you?




9/18/2009 2:39 PM  I respond to Holden, explaining circumstances and leave message for him on telephone


9/18/2009 ~3:00pm  Call from Holden.  He says Haley or others may

       use this against University and he may have to ask me to

       resign.  I read my letter to him and he asks me to resign.  He

      announces that YWC is shut down until another advisor is found


9/18/2009 3:01 PM I write Jesse at CH News "I trust you took my

       colt 45 comment as it was intended; I certainly don't feel

       threatened but the chancellor took it seriously and has

       asked me to step down as adviser "


9/18/2009 3:10 PM  Jesse asks about correspondence with Holden

       and I send it


9/18/2009 3:33 PM  Jesse DeConto writes:  How do you plan to

       respond to the chancellor's request?  I reply: It's his

       call;  he evidently thinks that it will be presented as if

       I were making a serious threat rather than an off-hand

       light-hearted response to a concerned student who thought

       I might be in danger. I'm sorry that I placed him in an

       awkward position


9/18/2009 3:51 PM Jesse DeConto wrote: This is all just too

       interesting. Can we sit down for an interview early next



9/18/2009 ~7pm  I get call from N&O asking for picture and saying

       they will have article on front page next day


9/19/2009 12:42 AM  To Holden:  I'm afraid that things are

       getting out of control.  If there are people out there who

       wish to do me harm, it is well that they understand that I

       may be prepared to defend myself.  I didn't start this;

       Haley did.  I hope you will reconsider; if you dissolve 

       YWC, Haley and her friends will have won and the

       University will have lost.


9/19/2009 1:45 PM  To Holden: I am shocked that a student would

       be fearful of my revealing that he sent an email

       supporting me.  I think this is a far more serious problem

       than my jokinqg about a colt 45.


9/19/2009 5:44 PM  To Holden: any way to come to a compromise on

       this ... I see I sent my email at 12:14am.  Perhaps at

       10pm I would have simply forwarded Nikel's email to me. 

       If you have any thoughts on this, let me know,


9/20/2009 ~9am  Call from Holden  He would like things to calm

       down for a few days and he will talk to PR people and get

       back to me


9/20/2009 10:12 AM  copy to Holden of Email to Pope foundation:

       “I'd like to see if we can work things out before getting you guys involved”


9/21/2009 7:53 AM  email to Holden about interview with Haley and

       blog asking people to write him


9/21/2009 3:18 PM  email from Chris (former advisor): Holden has proposed a

       committee of people including, Hugon, me, and Jon Curtis

       to advise YWC.  I get call from Tarheel about an hour

       later, asking me about plan.  Instead Holden excludes me

       and adds Chris.


9/22/2009 11:49 AM  Article in Herald. Email to Holden: “It seems

       to me that my inadvertent inclusion of a joke pales in

       comparison to the real intimidation which included the

       chanting of "We know your addresses", an obvious threat. 

       It would be good if the University spoke out about this.

       As for Haley, she has made her intentions clear in her

       interview (attached)”